This is clearly a good, able and honest businessman who does not have sufficient clout to stop these scum testifying. If he was some psycopath he would have destroyed their mobile phones and walked away. Robber quote from the Daily Mail article (above): 'He said: “I been nicking diesel and some bloke has beaten me up with a stick and broken my legs and my arm. I...
@Sqad But as best I can tell, the CPS guidelines are just that - proportionate.And his defence will be stressing the mitigating factors, and the jury will be making a decision.
I would agree that the notion of a £75 fine for the wannabe robbers appears ludicrously lenient, but that should have no bearing on a decision over the level of violence meted out.
Some of the respondents here seem happy with the level of force applied here; I would be interested to know just what would be considered disproportionate by these respondents? Death? Permanent paralysis? Where do you think the line should be drawn?
For me,I would certainly question whether 2 broken legs and a broken arm is a proportionate response when chasing someone.
If I or my girlfriend were under immediate physical threat I would not necessarily be so moderate in my response - but those same intruders/muggers/lowlife running away? Not the same thing at all.
This is the second time that you have asked me this question and as i have answered it and you have not returned to the thread (which is routine for you)......I will answer you for the final time.
Yes.I have owned a boutique and a travel agency.......both small businesses.
If they had not been illegally on his premises with criminal intent then NO ONE would have been injured. I am heartily sick of the mamby pamby attitude this country has regarding the feelings of criminals who get injured in the process of breaking the law, any punishment they get from a property owner who catches them on his/her property they well & truly deserve.
The jury would be directed that, if the defendant used only what seemed to him to be reasonable force, necessary for his self-defence, at the time; 'in the agony of the moment'; that amounts to self-defence. It doesn't matter that, in fact, the force was greater than needed. The law does not expect a man under attack, or protecting another person under attack or even his property, to be able to 'weigh to a nicety' the precise degree of force needed.
\\\\The law does not expect a man under attack, or protecting another person under attack or even his property, to be able to 'weigh to a nicety' the precise degree of force needed.\\
Agreed Ludwig. If they hadn't been where they shouldn't have been they wouldn't have been 'attacked'. Burglars choose to do what they do, they take their chances, and they deserve all they get. I have no sympathy whatsoever.
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