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French Fishermen Fear For Their Fishing 'rights'
Makes you weep when you think about what has happened to the British fishing fleets and ports over the last 40 years !
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OG,
The Government won, and continues to allocate just 6% of our quota to small community boats, in favour of large, mostly foreign owned boats.
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The Government won, and continues to allocate just 6% of our quota to small community boats, in favour of large, mostly foreign owned boats.
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The Government are the culprits for decimating communities, not the EU.
When the Government has to regulate all of the area instead of a quota, will they just favour licensing a few very large boats, flagged in the UK, but foreign owned, rather than thousands of small boats? On current form they will. Rather than save fishing communities, they will continue with more of the same.
When the Government has to regulate all of the area instead of a quota, will they just favour licensing a few very large boats, flagged in the UK, but foreign owned, rather than thousands of small boats? On current form they will. Rather than save fishing communities, they will continue with more of the same.
Well that government mindset, and the pro EUSSR, faction has been swept away. We can now concentrate on the business of making UK P.L.C. great again, without the anti British Eurocrats steering policies that were always designed to rob the British people of our own resources. Sadly there were many fifth column collaborators only too willing to do their devious work for them. They are still here, and are constantly agitating to undermine the rights and ambitions of the indigenous British people. They are howling with dismay having been thwarted, and will continue to talk down the future steps taken to regain control of our own land and sea.
The British Fishing Industry had long been in decline before the EU Common Fisheries Policy. It eas mainly the result of us losing the Cod Warwith Iceland, in the 1970s.
// Iceland achieved its overall aims. As a result, the already declining British fisheries were hit hard by being excluded from their prime fishing grounds, and the economies of the large northern fishing ports in the United Kingdom, such as Grimsby, Hull, and Fleetwood, were severely affected, with thousands of skilled fishermen and people in related trades being put out of work. On the other hand, the cost for repairing the damaged Royal Navy frigates was probably over £1 million.
// Iceland achieved its overall aims. As a result, the already declining British fisheries were hit hard by being excluded from their prime fishing grounds, and the economies of the large northern fishing ports in the United Kingdom, such as Grimsby, Hull, and Fleetwood, were severely affected, with thousands of skilled fishermen and people in related trades being put out of work. On the other hand, the cost for repairing the damaged Royal Navy frigates was probably over £1 million.
According to this report the British fishing industry's demise was the fault of Edward Heath's desperation to enter 'Europe' by giving in to Brussel's demands.
/// But back in the 1990s, this column was almost alone in reporting what had followed after Edward Heath was so desperate to enter “Europe” that he gave way to Brussels’s new demand (not even legally authorised by the treaties) that all fishing waters must be merged as a “common European
resource”. ///
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/// But back in the 1990s, this column was almost alone in reporting what had followed after Edward Heath was so desperate to enter “Europe” that he gave way to Brussels’s new demand (not even legally authorised by the treaties) that all fishing waters must be merged as a “common European
resource”. ///
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Thanks Gromit, it answers the first question as to the outcome. But unfortunately sheds no light on why the government thought this the best solution for the UK. Have to believe there was some sort of quid pro quo or else why do it ? I'm unconvinced less work for the record keepers is a valid justification.
Cheers AOG, I assumed as much, something put on the table in order to negotiate getting into the single EEC market; but I don't see that as a reason we have continued to allow others near to our coast to fish, whilst we had to continue abiding to the EU distance limit with regards to others' coastline. There's something fishy there.
Cheers AOG, I assumed as much, something put on the table in order to negotiate getting into the single EEC market; but I don't see that as a reason we have continued to allow others near to our coast to fish, whilst we had to continue abiding to the EU distance limit with regards to others' coastline. There's something fishy there.
OG,
The reason is to improve productivity and there keep prices low. Sadly, the big boats can mine more fish, more quickly than the small community boats. Reducing the fleet is a deliberate policy to improve productivity.
Since the 1970s the amount of fish caught has doubled, while fleets have got smaller.
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The reason is to improve productivity and there keep prices low. Sadly, the big boats can mine more fish, more quickly than the small community boats. Reducing the fleet is a deliberate policy to improve productivity.
Since the 1970s the amount of fish caught has doubled, while fleets have got smaller.
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// UK fishing fleets have been cut by 19 per cent since 1992 and a further 40 per cent since 1996, while leaving the EU would give Britain a seat at the “top table” on international fishing bodies where it is now only represented by the EU.//
//“The Common Fisheries Policy has had a massive negative effect on fishing communities all around Britain that used to rely on fishing.
“It used to be said that for every boat, there were 10 people in jobs on shore.
“There are places on the coast now that don’t have any fishing boats and their harbours are being turned into yachting marinas.//
Ignore what Elizabeth Truss has to say. She is an avid follower of the EU pyramid scheme and now finds herself isolated and desperately looking for a "cause".
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//“The Common Fisheries Policy has had a massive negative effect on fishing communities all around Britain that used to rely on fishing.
“It used to be said that for every boat, there were 10 people in jobs on shore.
“There are places on the coast now that don’t have any fishing boats and their harbours are being turned into yachting marinas.//
Ignore what Elizabeth Truss has to say. She is an avid follower of the EU pyramid scheme and now finds herself isolated and desperately looking for a "cause".
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None of this matters.
If the French fisherman get in the slightest bit upset they will blockade the Ports of Calais and Boulogne and set fire to piles of tyres on the approach roads to the ports. That's the way they do things.
Anybody believing that our leaving the EU will result in the sudden resurgence of the UK fishing industry is sadly mistaken. Most people in the UK buy fish only if it is in the form of frozen blocks and packed in boxes. Most of what they buy is either Pollock or Basa from way beyond the EU’s waters and is simply labelled “fish” (rather like going into a butchers and asking for some “meat”). They don’t care where it’s from; they don’t care what it is (so long as it can be cooked in the microwave in three minutes). Present them with a fish with a head and tail and they’d recoil in horror. The UK does not do fish as most continental countries do (where there seems to be an abundance of many varieties, all with heads and tails). All a fuss over nothing.
If the French fisherman get in the slightest bit upset they will blockade the Ports of Calais and Boulogne and set fire to piles of tyres on the approach roads to the ports. That's the way they do things.
Anybody believing that our leaving the EU will result in the sudden resurgence of the UK fishing industry is sadly mistaken. Most people in the UK buy fish only if it is in the form of frozen blocks and packed in boxes. Most of what they buy is either Pollock or Basa from way beyond the EU’s waters and is simply labelled “fish” (rather like going into a butchers and asking for some “meat”). They don’t care where it’s from; they don’t care what it is (so long as it can be cooked in the microwave in three minutes). Present them with a fish with a head and tail and they’d recoil in horror. The UK does not do fish as most continental countries do (where there seems to be an abundance of many varieties, all with heads and tails). All a fuss over nothing.
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/After Brexit, quota arrangements and access to UK waters by non-UK vessels will be determined by the UK authorities - not by Brussels. This will provide an opportunity to address quota distribution and to control how many non-UK vessels fish in UK waters, how and where they fish.//
//“We are certain that both the UK and the remaining EU countries will want to negotiate sensible bilateral arrangement that will allow fair access arrangement for our vessels fishing in EU waters; and EU vessels fishing in UK waters. But the principle of equal access to UK waters will be dead,” //
Two quotes from the above link.
/After Brexit, quota arrangements and access to UK waters by non-UK vessels will be determined by the UK authorities - not by Brussels. This will provide an opportunity to address quota distribution and to control how many non-UK vessels fish in UK waters, how and where they fish.//
//“We are certain that both the UK and the remaining EU countries will want to negotiate sensible bilateral arrangement that will allow fair access arrangement for our vessels fishing in EU waters; and EU vessels fishing in UK waters. But the principle of equal access to UK waters will be dead,” //
Two quotes from the above link.
OG, the difference between the French having 6 mile access and the UK having a 12 mile one is far more complex than it appears. It seems to vary on what is being fished and availability of stocks. We can in fact catch Herring up to 6 miles from som parts of France.
// The UK, of course, has the biggest list of access rights to her coastal waters simply because the majority of the living resources of the EU Common Fisheries Policy are located in our waters that were squandered by Edward Heath.
The UK has some limited access to Ireland 6 – 12 for Demersal, Herring & Mackerel (not much use under Pelagic Landing Obligation rules if the fish are in a mixture.) UK has limited access to German waters in the zone around Heligoland for Cod & Plaice only (not much use under the Demersal Landing Obligation rules). UK has limited access in Dutch waters from Texel S Point to the Ned/ German border for Demersal fisheries only.
The UK has limited access to French waters for Herring only from border with Belgium to Cap d’Alprech. //
// The UK, of course, has the biggest list of access rights to her coastal waters simply because the majority of the living resources of the EU Common Fisheries Policy are located in our waters that were squandered by Edward Heath.
The UK has some limited access to Ireland 6 – 12 for Demersal, Herring & Mackerel (not much use under Pelagic Landing Obligation rules if the fish are in a mixture.) UK has limited access to German waters in the zone around Heligoland for Cod & Plaice only (not much use under the Demersal Landing Obligation rules). UK has limited access in Dutch waters from Texel S Point to the Ned/ German border for Demersal fisheries only.
The UK has limited access to French waters for Herring only from border with Belgium to Cap d’Alprech. //
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