Deskdiary - // The trouble is Andy, I'm becoming flippant because I cant think of how else to frame the same response.
I have literally no idea whether the knickers are relevant to the case. BUT nobody on this thread knows whether they are relevant or not.
The judge felt they were relevant.
Some people don't like my responses because they feel I should automatically consider that anybody who raises dress as a defence is wrong. And actually I generally agree with them. But the trouble is these same people are wilfully ignoring the point that the judge is in a far better position to decide on what is and what is not relevant than EVERYBODY on this thread. //
I would not for one minute suggest that I should offer advice on how to debate, but experience tells me that offering a point, even more than once, does not mean that it is always going to be accepted, and sometimes it never is.
You have made your point a couple of times, I have supported your view, because I agree that the judge runs the trial as she sees fit, and may be offering this evidence for reasons to which we, as outsiders, are not privy.
The final result has to be, you have made your point, and people accept it, or not, that is the nature of debate - but frustration doesn't increase your chances of getting your view across, and it's often best just to leave it, and carry on.