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Britons Being Flown Back From Wuhan

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Zacs-Master | 14:19 Wed 29th Jan 2020 | News
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Apparently they're going to be put in quarantine for 14 days possibly at Military bases, but....
a) what about the other people on the flight (aircraft are notorious for spreading germs / diseases etc)?
b) what about the crew?

Is this the right decision?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51292590
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Good news. Thanks, Togo.
Zacs, all the "fellow passengers" are going to be in same boat (or plane)
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Should have done a bit more research. My bad.
// (aircraft are notorious for spreading germs / diseases etc)?//

bowed to public pressure without thinking things thru..
little joke first to lighten the mood
"that should be think fings flu " - yeah china flu see?

2nd - the authorities have learnt - erm yeah
well perhaps form Ebola where the head of PHLS - very quiet this time I can tell you - leaked that a doctor had forged one of the temperature charts to show normal at an airport- and a whole load of carers were suspended and struck off

The glasgow ebola case was where a nurse rang up 111 and said I think I have ebola and was given the advice
yeah well come into cas on de bus !
this caused chaos when they realised what had happened and fingers were pointed at the most junior people involved

3rd here is a really long paper on ebola screening
what did it do and what was it meant to do? focus group research
https://gh.bmj.com/content/3/3/e000788.full

4thapparently they are not sure if you can get it from people or only from a dead cat - really they should know by now ....

and finally - airplanes are not incubators of deadly diseases.
The TB outbreak which really got them going - the traveller croaked seven days after flying - oo-er MRs - the infected contacts were from the eight people ringing her. three in front =three behind and one each side.
this virtually proved that the air con had nothing to do with it


// Should have done a bit more research. My bad.//
erm no - no need
this is what makes AB er what it is ....
"The virus has now emerged in the United Arab Emirates, medical officials announced on Wednesday. A case of the coronavirus has been locally diagnosed, with a family of four from Wuhan thought to be the first confirmed carriers in the Middle East."

Can't see it taking hold there myself. Most of them are already wearing those bio hazard suits.

I remember when a case of corona was a cause for celebration.
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'airplanes are not incubators of deadly diseases'
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/all-topics-ztravellers-health/infectious-diseases-aircraft

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120607092510.htm

Disclaimer: Zacs-master has zero scientific qualifications (apart from an A level in geography....which isn't really a science....) so he has accepted the information in the above links as verbatim, without question and / or recourse to verify any facts. Just so we're all clear.
// I read a tongue in cheek post of PePe's on here a week or so ago where he joked that it was unclear whether the injections being given were to treat the virus or to help it spread. Haha I though.........what was I thinking?//

foo ! I love it when people say "I read Pete Pz post and thought what rubbish but now I find it absolutely true,"
they never say sozza pete tho

and - - that wasnt me

and anyway there is no vaccine for corona virus and no specific treatment - There was a sharp illtempered and rather stupid thread on measles vaccine last week and I pointed out there had been 85 measles deaths on samoa in unvaccinated children. Then the deep thinking anti vaxxer upped and said she wasnt an antivaxxer at all.
yeah that stupid

ref above discusses
what is to be done ( ebola )
and what do the public want done ?

which is some distance away from - is there anything we can do which works ?
// 'airplanes are not incubators of deadly diseases//
they are ill when they get on arent they ?

when A flies to B and takes deadly child killing disease with him
I agree that an aircraft has spread a disease
but we are talking about A infecting other people on the flight?
or arent we ?

I read a serious article about coronavirus only the other minute
but now I realise that the poster was talking rubbish and just should have laughed at him and not really bothered

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People re breathing the same (albeit filtered) air for 11 hours.....

I'm glad I'm not one of the crew.
They are not really breathing the same air per se. 50% is recycled and 50% is fresh (of sorts) and the flow rate can be altered. This virus is droplet spread so you probably wouldn't get it from breathing the same air as other people.
Dont wing the wong number

https://ibb.co/d2mx4PT
I have just heard the latest on the Beeb TV and they are suggesting that the flight tomorrow now won't happen
You get the flu jab & out comes a virus not covered.

Trump told USA chinese visiting China, not to return - he has balls to say how it is!
I would imagine that a lot of Chinese restaurants are losing money over this outbreak. I regularly drive past a large and popular restaurant called the Mandarin, and over the last few days I have observed a noticeably large decrease in cars parked there.
PP, //Then the deep thinking anti vaxxer upped and said she wasnt an antivaxxer at all.
yeah that stupid//

Who was that, PP? I saw no anti-vaxxers on that thread. I do hope you’re not misrepresenting other people again. That would be pretty stupid.
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Sounds like there are a few problems with the flight (clearance from China etc). It was discussed on JV (BBC R2) earlier and it's not clear that the crew will be quarantined.
Probably Chinese red tape. Even if there is a tech problem with a plane in China it takes about a dozen people to sign off any engineering work. Looks like its leaving at 0500 tomorrow.
I have seen today that there are issues with who will be allowed to leave :(

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