Immigrants

[MrBen5]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1 285549,00.html

See i was right on an earlier post...

[jake-the-peg]

Did you manage to read all of it?

What about the bit that said:

"In Poland you are not allowed to drink even one beer and then drive. The rules are stricter,"

I wonder why you're not quoting the story about Timothy Brady who was caught doing 172mph?

Oh silly me he's not an immigrant - and you only want stories of immigrants committing offences so you can say you were right all along!

Well done!

[stokemaveric]

if they are not allowed to have even 1 drink and drive in their homeland then surely they must know that it is against the law to do it in the uk.the police are raising concerns over drink drive situations by immigrants ignorant [or so they say] of the law.they should not be allowed to drive in this country until they have passed a full uk test and show that they are capable of reading and understanding road signs.until then they should not be allowed behind the wheel....we are to soft on immigrants in every respect.

[gina32]

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/20095 /Immigrants-blamed-for-more-crashes

nothing about polands no drinking laws on this one

[stokemaveric]

mrben so if it was an immigrant caught doing 172mph it would have been ok would it?because he couldnt read the speed signs?just an afterthought...

[jake-the-peg]

Love that one - now you have the Daily Express quoting the Daily Mail.

There is a zero tolerance for drink driving in Poland. If you drive and have been drinking (even 1 unit of alcohol) you can be charged.
http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/Front ?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page &cid=1086624682527

So let's have no more of this "they're not used to proper driving rules" rubbish from police officers who should know better

Right now you've got a couple of Chief Police Officers looking to try and screw more money out of the government by getting political.

Funny this should all be kicking off during the Labour party conference.

[China Doll]

Can't say I agree but well done for posting a link.

Soon you'll be a real boy...

[sp1814]

stokemaveric

You wrote:

They should not be allowed to drive in this country until they have passed a full uk test and show that they are capable of reading and understanding road signs

Problem with that is, I believe, under EC laws, other member countries could impose the same laws. How would that affect British tourists...say in Greece?

Don't know about you, but I can't read any road signs in that country.

It's all Greek to me.

(Can you believe I went through all that for that pretty weak final joke? No, me neither).

[Gromit]

Chief Inspector Rick Dowell is talking nonsense. Most eastern Euurope countries have blood Alcohol levels lower than in the UK.

The Blood Alcohol Levels
0.0 per mg � Estonia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Hungary
0.2 per mg � Poland
0.5 per mg - Bulgaria, Serbia/Montenegro, Croatia, Latvia, Macedonia, Slovenia
0.8 per mg � U.K.

http://www.safetravel.co.uk/EuropeDrinkDriving Limits.html

"Drinking and driving is never a good idea, period. But it becomes especially bad when you go abroad. Not only are you unfamiliar with the roads and driving customs, but driving on the other side of the road and the different speed limits are experiences that need complete concentration. Those factors all add up. But there's one more to take into consideration - the legal blood alcohol limit for driving. Compared to Britain, most European countries have very low limits, or in some instances absolutely zero tolerance."

[gina32]

well i think it would be a start if they could read and speak our language before coming here

[China Doll]

I suspect there are people in the world saying the same about the English who have emigrated to their countries Gina.

[Gwennie]

its true, the english are very ignorant when it comes to other cultures

[Emu2005]

I agree with you Gina. Yes the English may be quite ignorant when it comes to learning new languages abroad, but many non-English speaking countries will display signs in English anyway. Also, I wonder if there is a non-English speaking country that has seen English immigrants in the same numbers that England has seen immigrants from any one country? I doubt it.... With the number of different languages being spoken here it is not reasonable to think that we should put up signs in all of the foreign languages. I agree with Stokemaverick - all drivers in this country should be able to read and understand the road signs. If this means other countries impose the same rule, so be it. I am sure most citizens of this country want safer roads here as top priority.

[China Doll]

Well if they put the signs in English anyway what the hell eh?!

That makes it all better.

I think the idea behind passing your driving test is that you do understand all the road signs. English or not.

[gina32]

china im sure there are and its just my opinion.

[anotheoldgit]

Well we all know that the streets of the UK are paved with gold and anyone coming to this country can do just do as they damn well like. So is it any wonder after enduring zero tolerence on drink driving in their own country, they know they can let themselves go when they arrive on these shores.

That is why they bring other crime to this country. In their countries the police carry guns, belt them over the head with batons, and chuck them into rough prisons at the drop of a hat. So it must seem like a criminal's utopia for them when they come here?

[Gromit]

Emu2005 wrtote
I wonder if there is a non-English speaking country that has seen English immigrants in the same numbers that England has seen immigrants from any one country? I doubt it.

Try this...

Spain attracts record levels of immigrants seeking jobs and sun

Spain took in an extra 650,000 foreign immigrants last year, mostly from Latin America although Britons heading for a life in the sun also accounted for a significant proportion.

Booming Spain has been Europe's largest absorber of migrants for the past six years, with its immigrant population increasing fourfold as 2.8 million people have arrived.




http://www.guardian.co.uk/spain/article/0,,183 0838,00.html

[anotheoldgit]

Chinadoll, how long as it been necessary in the British driving test to be able to read foreign road signs?

Really must consider retaking my test, because those Chinese road signs are a certain no, no to me.

[Emu2005]

Very true - to be honest spain completely slipped my mind! I don't think I explained myself very well before - all I was trying to say was that yes the English can be ignorant, but if all road signs in a foreign country are displayed in English as well, then there isn't really a pressing need to learn the foreign language. However, when any visitor (english or not) drives in another country where the road signs are not in a language they understand, they have the responsibility to learn the signs. I tihnk this rule should apply to everyone, English included.

[anotheoldgit]

Pretty impressive Gromit, I wonder what the attraction is in Spain?

Does the Guardian say what their benefits system is like?

Will they pay child benefit out to send back home to the missus and kids?

What the accomodation that they offer you, is like?

Is there free medical care?

Does one need to go to work?

One needs to take all these things into account before one even starts to pack a bag.

[Gromit]

Spain has many benefits AOG, but the Daily Mail arrives a day late so questions submitted on AB would be a day late.

It has just occurred to me, do you think AB Ed resides there?