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Hymie 14:14, "I’m half expecting TTT to claim the above as ‘fake news’." not at all, claim what you like it does not matter because most brexiteers couldn't give a rats April about the things you are obsessed with. We are not bothered about the financial things. We wanted our nation back from being run by unelected foreign bureaucrats. Why is that so difficult to grasp?
//Plus everyone else went through the pandemic so why is ours the lowest growth forecast amongst the G7?//
I told you in another thread: it’s because huge numbers of people are sitting at home munching Hobnobs, worrying about their wellbeing instead of worrying about getting their employer’s productivity up. Those that are working are plotting ways to strike.
//in almost all sectors of of UK economy and Public Services.75% of companies are experiencing hiring difficulties and labour shortages since Brexit.//
See above. Getting on for 20% (about 6.8million) people of working age in this country are not working. There is absolutely no need to ship in vast numbers of workers (for whom we have neither the accommodation nor the resources) when we have vast numbers already here who are not working. What is needed is for those people to be incentivised to work instead of being allowed to sit at home in relative comfort.
//t's time for the UK to sit down with EU officials and find common ground that will benefit both sides…//
If only. The EU does not do that with non-members. Its only interests are protecting its members from competition among themselves and making trade as difficult as they can for those outside.
Since the pandemic, and the ridiculous measures that were taken to “fight” it, this country has slipped into a mood of indolence and laziness. People have been told they need not return to their workplaces as they can work equally efficiently at home. Most of them cannot. Those who are working are being given new concessions to help them achieve a “work life balance”. Some have taken it to extremes and now they fit work in when they can. It is no wonder that productivity has fallen away and it’s got nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit.
//55% Of the UK now think it was wrong to leave the EU.//
Hard Luck. We’ve left.
I told you in another thread: it’s because huge numbers of people are sitting at home munching Hobnobs, worrying about their wellbeing instead of worrying about getting their employer’s productivity up. Those that are working are plotting ways to strike.
//in almost all sectors of of UK economy and Public Services.75% of companies are experiencing hiring difficulties and labour shortages since Brexit.//
See above. Getting on for 20% (about 6.8million) people of working age in this country are not working. There is absolutely no need to ship in vast numbers of workers (for whom we have neither the accommodation nor the resources) when we have vast numbers already here who are not working. What is needed is for those people to be incentivised to work instead of being allowed to sit at home in relative comfort.
//t's time for the UK to sit down with EU officials and find common ground that will benefit both sides…//
If only. The EU does not do that with non-members. Its only interests are protecting its members from competition among themselves and making trade as difficult as they can for those outside.
Since the pandemic, and the ridiculous measures that were taken to “fight” it, this country has slipped into a mood of indolence and laziness. People have been told they need not return to their workplaces as they can work equally efficiently at home. Most of them cannot. Those who are working are being given new concessions to help them achieve a “work life balance”. Some have taken it to extremes and now they fit work in when they can. It is no wonder that productivity has fallen away and it’s got nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit.
//55% Of the UK now think it was wrong to leave the EU.//
Hard Luck. We’ve left.
I posted these few lines on a similar(plenty of them) thread. The ones that need a German or French nursemaid have "forgotten" them.
“Economic growth is lower due to Brexit”
GDP growth has been higher in Britain than in the Eurozone since we left: in 2021 by 7.4% to 5.3%; and it is predicted by the IMF to be higher in 2022 (3.7% to 2.8%). If in 2023 it is lower (1.2% to 2.3%) than in the Eurozone—the one IMF forecast that Remainers are eagerly highlighting—this is because the Eurozone is belatedly catching up. Yet so far, the UK continues to outperform the EU: British GDP growth in the first quarter of 2022 was more than double that of the EU (0,75% to 0.27). Sources: International Monetary Fund [IMF], Office for National Statistics [ONS], eurostat.
In the wider global context too, UK growth remained above average: in 2021, it was 7.4%, compared with the average in all advanced economies of 5.2%. The IMF forecasts that UK growth this year will be 3.7%, compared with the advanced economies average of 3.3%. Source: https:/
“The cost of living has risen due to Brexit”
Food prices (April 2021-April 2022) rose 6.5% in the UK, and 9.2% in the Eurozone. Sources: Eurostat, ONS.
Prices of all UK imports from the EU showed no hike in the months following our exit from the Single Market. Since 2021, they have indeed risen: from March 2021 to March 2022 they rose 13%. But in the Eurozone, import prices have risen by nearly twice as much over the same period—by 25%. Sources: ONS and Eurostat.
Industrial producer prices are presently increasing in the EU at double the rate of the UK Sources: Eurostat, ONS
Clearly, price rises in the UK cannot be blamed on Brexit when prices in the EU are rising as fast and often faster.
“Trade has collapsed due to Brexit”
There has been a slight fall in our trade with the EU, but much of the decline is in export of North Sea Oil, because we are producing less, partly by choice. Exports of other goods, however, have not shown a fall, and from January 2020 to May 2022, eurostar freight volumes rose by 5%. Sources: Sources: ONS and Getlink.
If we take as an example trade with France, British exports between 2016 and 2020 followed a practically identical course with those of German exports to France; and since the end of 2020, British exports to France have significantly outpaced those of Germany. Source: Direction Générale des Douânes et des Droits indirects.
Financial services exports—one of our major industries—have remained stable with the EU: in the last three months of 2021 they amounted to £6 billion—the same as for the same period in 2019, before Covid and when we were still in the Single Market. But our financial services exports worldwide rose over the same period from £13.6 billion to £14.8 billion. Source: ONS.
In general, over the last decade our trade has been rising six times faster with the rest of the world than with the Eurozone.
“Labour shortages are due to Brexit”
There are labour shortages round the globe—a consequence of the disruption caused by Covid. The Bank of France, for example, announced on 13 March that half of all French firms are suffering from recruiting problems. Source: Le Monde, 21 March 2022.
In Britain, the shortage cannot be blamed on Brexit, because the number of EU-born individuals in employment fell by only 20,000 between 2019 and 2022—disproving stories of a mass exodus. Also, over the same period, people from the rest of the world with jobs in the UK rose by 440,000. Source: https:/
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“Economic growth is lower due to Brexit”
GDP growth has been higher in Britain than in the Eurozone since we left: in 2021 by 7.4% to 5.3%; and it is predicted by the IMF to be higher in 2022 (3.7% to 2.8%). If in 2023 it is lower (1.2% to 2.3%) than in the Eurozone—the one IMF forecast that Remainers are eagerly highlighting—this is because the Eurozone is belatedly catching up. Yet so far, the UK continues to outperform the EU: British GDP growth in the first quarter of 2022 was more than double that of the EU (0,75% to 0.27). Sources: International Monetary Fund [IMF], Office for National Statistics [ONS], eurostat.
In the wider global context too, UK growth remained above average: in 2021, it was 7.4%, compared with the average in all advanced economies of 5.2%. The IMF forecasts that UK growth this year will be 3.7%, compared with the advanced economies average of 3.3%. Source: https:/
“The cost of living has risen due to Brexit”
Food prices (April 2021-April 2022) rose 6.5% in the UK, and 9.2% in the Eurozone. Sources: Eurostat, ONS.
Prices of all UK imports from the EU showed no hike in the months following our exit from the Single Market. Since 2021, they have indeed risen: from March 2021 to March 2022 they rose 13%. But in the Eurozone, import prices have risen by nearly twice as much over the same period—by 25%. Sources: ONS and Eurostat.
Industrial producer prices are presently increasing in the EU at double the rate of the UK Sources: Eurostat, ONS
Clearly, price rises in the UK cannot be blamed on Brexit when prices in the EU are rising as fast and often faster.
“Trade has collapsed due to Brexit”
There has been a slight fall in our trade with the EU, but much of the decline is in export of North Sea Oil, because we are producing less, partly by choice. Exports of other goods, however, have not shown a fall, and from January 2020 to May 2022, eurostar freight volumes rose by 5%. Sources: Sources: ONS and Getlink.
If we take as an example trade with France, British exports between 2016 and 2020 followed a practically identical course with those of German exports to France; and since the end of 2020, British exports to France have significantly outpaced those of Germany. Source: Direction Générale des Douânes et des Droits indirects.
Financial services exports—one of our major industries—have remained stable with the EU: in the last three months of 2021 they amounted to £6 billion—the same as for the same period in 2019, before Covid and when we were still in the Single Market. But our financial services exports worldwide rose over the same period from £13.6 billion to £14.8 billion. Source: ONS.
In general, over the last decade our trade has been rising six times faster with the rest of the world than with the Eurozone.
“Labour shortages are due to Brexit”
There are labour shortages round the globe—a consequence of the disruption caused by Covid. The Bank of France, for example, announced on 13 March that half of all French firms are suffering from recruiting problems. Source: Le Monde, 21 March 2022.
In Britain, the shortage cannot be blamed on Brexit, because the number of EU-born individuals in employment fell by only 20,000 between 2019 and 2022—disproving stories of a mass exodus. Also, over the same period, people from the rest of the world with jobs in the UK rose by 440,000. Source: https:/
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“Brexit-induced border bureaucracy has raised prices in the UK and devastated our export trade with the EU”
Exporters of food and beverages faced arguably the largest new barriers of any sector post-Brexit, and very pessimistic predictions were made by Remainers about their future. What has actually happened?
Our fishing exports to the EU—around £100 million per month—are little changed from 2014, long before Brexit. Other food exports are slightly up, and beverages exports in April 2022 (worth £257 million) were 10.5% higher than at the start of 2020. Scottish salmon exports—widely predicted by Remainers to be doomed by Brexit—are booming: up by a nearly a third last year to the EU, and by 36% to global markets, confirming salmon’s place as the UK’s biggest single food export. Sources: ONS; https:/
Our net trading position with the EU—i.e. imports compared with exports—has substantially improved since we left the Single Market. Though we still have a large trade deficit, it has more than halved, by the equivalent of 2% of GDP (in monetary terms, over £40 billion) Source: ONS
“Brexit-induced border bureaucracy has raised prices in the UK and devastated our export trade with the EU”
Exporters of food and beverages faced arguably the largest new barriers of any sector post-Brexit, and very pessimistic predictions were made by Remainers about their future. What has actually happened?
Our fishing exports to the EU—around £100 million per month—are little changed from 2014, long before Brexit. Other food exports are slightly up, and beverages exports in April 2022 (worth £257 million) were 10.5% higher than at the start of 2020. Scottish salmon exports—widely predicted by Remainers to be doomed by Brexit—are booming: up by a nearly a third last year to the EU, and by 36% to global markets, confirming salmon’s place as the UK’s biggest single food export. Sources: ONS; https:/
Our net trading position with the EU—i.e. imports compared with exports—has substantially improved since we left the Single Market. Though we still have a large trade deficit, it has more than halved, by the equivalent of 2% of GDP (in monetary terms, over £40 billion) Source: ONS
What have you Brexiteers done to the UK.
Six years on and now you are counting the cost from Brexit. Sectors from Fishing to Aviation, Farming to Science report being bogged down in red tape , struggling to recruit staff and racking up losses for the very first time . What have you done to your beloved Country .Because you let idiots radicalise you. Did any of you try to think it out for yourselves, or did you realise you were not capable and left it all to Boris, Suckers! you are the ones that will suffer not Boris
Six years on and now you are counting the cost from Brexit. Sectors from Fishing to Aviation, Farming to Science report being bogged down in red tape , struggling to recruit staff and racking up losses for the very first time . What have you done to your beloved Country .Because you let idiots radicalise you. Did any of you try to think it out for yourselves, or did you realise you were not capable and left it all to Boris, Suckers! you are the ones that will suffer not Boris
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